Kentucky Senator, Former Governor Accused of Groping, Propositioning Man
"I want to be your friend. And I don't want you to get involved in anything you don't want to be involved with. You hear me? I want to be your friend. But you know what I want, don't you?"
Former Kentucky Governor Julian Carroll, a current state senator representing Frankfort, said that he could help a budding and struggling photographer attend school. The Democrat, who served as Kentucky's governor from 1975 to 1979, met with the man in downtown Frankfort in 2005 and laid out the proposed deal.
The photographer, Jason Geis, recorded the conversation.
"I want to be relieved," Carroll said to Geis in the recording. "Could you do that for me?"
"What do you... How?," Geis asked.
"Jack me off," Carroll said. "Or, you know, to tell you the truth, I'd like to get a blow job but I don't want you to do anything you don't want to do."
Geis began weeping during the conversation and Carroll ultimately gave up and took the man for coffee.
The recording became public over the weekend when Spectrum News Kentucky (formerly CN|2) presented a months-long investigation into the matter:
Relying on previously undisclosed police files, a hidden recording and interviews with Geis and the lawmaker, Pure Politics offers the following eleven month investigation into the allegations and why they were kept quiet for so long.
More recordings and interviews can be seen at Spectrum News.
“We are terribly concerned by the events described in the Pure Politics piece involving Sen. Carroll,” said Brad Bowman, spokesman for the Kentucky Democratic Party. “While we acknowledge and greatly appreciate Sen. Carroll’s life-long career of public service, we cannot overlook the severity of these allegations and take them seriously.”
Carroll denies the contents of the recordings.
Last year, Carroll made anti-gay remarks in a profile of Lexington Mayor Jim Gray, who was then the Democratic nominee in the race against Republican U.S. Senator Rand Paul.
“I know my Christian friends don’t approve of it,” he said. “And quite frankly, it’s not a choice I choose to make.” Carroll said that people had tried to explain to him that whether someone is gay is not a choice, and he emphasized that he respects their opinion. But as a Christian, he added, his view was unwavering. “You can choose to ask God to convert you and heal you of that choice,” Carroll said.
The Carroll Chimes Bell Tower, or the clock tower, in Covington's Goebel Park is named for Julian Carroll, who was governor at the time of its dedication in 1979.
Carroll was a state representative from Paducah before rising to lieutenant governor and then governor in the 1970s. He is now a senator from Franklin County.
Top photo: Gov. Julian Carroll speaks in Frankfort (via Kenton Co. Public Library